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[00:00:00] Chris Furlong: Yo, yo yo, welcome back to the funnier lifestyle podcast, conversations on lifestyle passions and hustles. My name's Chris Furlong. I'm your host and I'm super excited to be back here, having the conversation with you now today, I'm super excited also to, uh, to have Matt the Aussie Flipper back here on the pod.

[00:00:17] Chris Furlong: And this is his second time, basically a year later. And you know, if you are new here, he's a reseller. He's a YouTube and he's doing some pretty cool stuff and he's basing. Practically built a business from $0 all the way up to a hundred thousand dollars in his first year. And if that doesn't inspire you, if that doesn't motivate you well, that's okay because it's not always about money, but Matt brings some really great perspective about taking it slow and growing and how it has worked for him.

[00:00:43] Chris Furlong: Um, he's doing amazing things on YouTube. YouTube has gained huge momentum over the last year, and we're going to chat all about that, but really the main topic today is just diving down a little deeper into what are the different elements that he's furthering in his life and why. And I think it's important to have these conversations.

[00:01:01] Chris Furlong: We also touch on a few other different things and me and Matt, we chat all the time. So it's just really just like another conversation. So make sure you buckle up, get excited and let's get into it. Matt, welcome to the feather lifestyle podcast. Uh, again, this is the second time it's almost been, almost been a year, probably has been a year.

[00:01:18] Chris Furlong: Uh, how are you doing.

[00:01:20] Matt Diedrich: I'm good, man. Thanks for getting me back on. Um, let's just sign off it. Congrats on the, uh, the one year for Paula. That's super exciting. Uh, I don't know how long ago was it that I was lost on?

[00:01:31] Chris Furlong: I think, I think you were like third or fourth guests, to be honest. Um, which puts you close to around March, April in 2021.

[00:01:40] Chris Furlong: So it has been a year. Um, and I know we've, we chat all the time and you know, we've had a few other calls which were non podcast related, but it's just not so quick. Right? I mean, you know, you've been doing this, I mean, you're doing reselling for about jeepers must be 18 months. Yeah.

[00:01:56] Matt Diedrich: Yeah. It's spot on.

[00:01:58] Matt Diedrich: It's a little bit override eight months now, July of 2020. Um, so yeah, I mean that, that time is absolutely flown, but things are doing really well, man. I'm, I'm still pretty much from a, I guess, a business at the same as it was when we last spoke a year ago. Just a little bit, probably more further down the road, but, um, yeah, he's rolling ticket along pretty well.

[00:02:15] Matt Diedrich: Yeah. Love it. Love it. And

[00:02:16] Chris Furlong: I look, I encourage everyone that's listening. If you haven't heard about who Matt is and the Aussie flipper, the journey that he's been doing for the last 18 months, you can go check out the first episode. Um, otherwise he's got his YouTube channel, which we're going to chat about shortly, but, um, yeah, go check out first episode with him because.

[00:02:32] Chris Furlong: That's basically where you would probably only about six months in, at that time. Uh, when we first caught up, I reckon, and it might've been a bit more and you were at the time of when we were chatting, you were basically having setting the goal to hit $100,000. Um, and I think that was for the year or you were on track to hit it by mid year or something.

[00:02:52] Chris Furlong: And I know, I know spoiler of it learnt that you hit that it hit that $100,000 and I kind of want to just catch up, you know, let's, let's go over. What's happened over the last year in terms of growth with the business growth with yourself on a YouTube is blown up. Um, and then we're going to dive into a bit more about, you know, just the different things that you're doing to help further your own life.

[00:03:12] Chris Furlong: So, uh, one year later you've done, you're doing over you've, you've done over a hundred thousand dollars in revenue reselling. And how how's that been, man? Because I mean to put it, you know, it's weird to go from zero and to build up to now. So yeah, I build a hundred thousand dollar business, right? Like it must be cool.

[00:03:30] Chris Furlong: Yeah,

[00:03:30] Matt Diedrich: it's pretty cool. I don't know. You're on the same journey itself as well, so, you know exactly kind of how it feels into it. Yeah. Progress yourself week by week, day by day, hour by hour. Cause that's really what it is. Um, but yeah, from, I guess when we were last on the pod, that was six months in. And I think at that point I was trying, I was working on my first financial year.

[00:03:48] Matt Diedrich: Not even financial year, just calendar year of doing July. I actually know a lie. It was a calendar year. Um, I wanted to get a hundred thousand dollars in revenue, straight off the bat, and I was able to take that off and get there. And we got the a hundred thousand and I basically just immediately started to set another goal.

[00:04:04] Matt Diedrich: So now I'm after $140,000 in revenue. Yeah. I need to just go for the next bar. You kind of, you're satisfied for a few days and then you would just want more don't you. So, um, that was certainly the case with males. I was really happy and excited to kind of get there and um, and then I thought, right, well, this is possible.

[00:04:21] Matt Diedrich: You can't continue with it. You've got it to a point where it is a full-time job and you, you don't need to work, uh, a side job or a second job to keep yourself going. This can be a full-time gig. And, um, and it was setting the next spot. Albeit it is still just me. There's no extra staff that have come on board or anything like that.

[00:04:38] Matt Diedrich: That's some future plans now that we've sort of hit this first level. Um, so I don't think, I really do feel like I'm tapping out right now from a workload perspective. Yeah. Um, I'm bringing like the more sales to get, the more revenue you get, the more work you have to do. Right. So, um, that's kinda got me to the point now where I realize that I'm, I'm pretty much, if I can hit the $140,000 in revenue, all it, just me doing it, or I can, from there, I can start to look at staffing and getting a few people to come in and I guess give me some assistance.

[00:05:08] Matt Diedrich: So, um, the other side of that is obviously the YouTube channel has been as much of a focus as the eBay revenue goals that I've got in place as well. And that hasn't fallen away for the last 12 months, either since day one at eight months ago. And I've still been publishing three videos a week. And I think I had 10 days off.

[00:05:25] Matt Diedrich: But, um, that was, oh, it was so hard. It was so hard. You feel like the algorithm is just going to just fall off the perch and not keep getting momentum, but I had to take it cause I was, I was feeling a little bit burnt out after a full sort of 18 months or 12 months of doing it. So, um, yeah man, YouTube going really well and, uh, I'm reselling is going pretty good.

[00:05:44] Matt Diedrich: So

[00:05:45] Chris Furlong: truly great. And you know, I've been following you since I think you were 600, 500 subscribers on, on YouTube and that would have been jeepers that would've been back in, um, October of 20, 20, I think. Um, yeah, that

[00:05:59] Matt Diedrich: sounds spot

[00:06:00] Chris Furlong: on. And you know, I think when I had you on the pod, you must be close to about 2000 subscribers on, on YouTube and now literally.

[00:06:09] Chris Furlong: Yesterday, or the day before you picked 7,000, which you know, to have that growth in that, you know, not even a year, basically. Um, it's just, it's just crazy what you can do when you put your work to it. And I, and I know you've put a lot of work into the YouTube and the algorithm in terms of spicing it up and making sure that that attractions coming through.

[00:06:27] Chris Furlong: You've always done that very well. Um, actually just with all your leads and, you know, when we, when we first caught up on the first episode of having you, you know, your background is, is sales, right? So you know, all about lead generation and getting people to click through and, you know, to come over and say, hi, and you did that originally via Instagram.

[00:06:45] Chris Furlong: Um, I don't know if you're still doing that on Instagram. You probably don't have to as much. Now it's a lot more organic. I would think

[00:06:52] Matt Diedrich: not completely, I've done it. I've done it so much. That they've literally stopped me from being able to communicate to people, to try and get them on board. Cause I was, I was dogging on that.

[00:07:04] Matt Diedrich: The minute they let me back in, I'm going to continue to do it like. It's the best way to do it. When you're a small concrete, you've got to market yourself, you've got to be the one that you got to be your own algorithm, but basically, so. Yeah, it is a little bit more organic for sure. As soon as you get to a certain point, it starts to generate a little bit quicker and you can have a large say in that, but the ideas of the videos that you come up with as well, like I've realized that video ideas is actually like, it's the first step, but it's the most important step when it comes to YouTube.

[00:07:34] Matt Diedrich: Um, so you've got to be talking about stuff that people won't actually listen to and then you've got to market that and package it well. Um, so I've been learning a lot about how to even, not even do the videos, but how to actually just market a title and a thumbnail so that somebody actually wants to click on it.

[00:07:47] Matt Diedrich: Um, and I feel like if you do all those other things, almost like outside things to the actual video itself, that's weirdly how you actually go ahead and generate your subscribers. Yeah.

[00:07:56] Chris Furlong: And the, uh, having watched you from basically day one, build your YouTube, you do it well, right. And I can see how much pleasure and enjoyment.

[00:08:05] Chris Furlong: Coming from that sales background. Like, even when you're saying it, like you were smiling and grinning, because I can just see you like that challenge and which is good, right. It's bringing skills from a different, you know, a previous life or previous work life and being able to adapt it into this whole new environment.

[00:08:20] Chris Furlong: And I think that's super important is that, you know, what we have is going to be an unfair advantage compared to someone else, but they're going to have an unfair advantage against you or vice versa, whether it is sport, whether it is reselling, whether it is whatever. Um, and I think we sometimes take that for granted, but it sounds like you've, you've, you've definitely hit the nail on the head and you've realized that, and now you're actualizing that, which is just a quick win for you.

[00:08:44] Chris Furlong: And it's, I mean, it's a no brainer as well. Um, so I mean, th there's, there's so much to unpack here, but I, I guess I don't want to spend the whole episode talking about the reselling, but you know, for those, I know there'll be a lot, that's come over from the reselling community to, to hear all the, you know, see if they can get any lessons or anything, but I guess.

[00:09:03] Chris Furlong: You touched on saying that you're, you're basically at that point where you're nearly at cap or you're hitting the ceiling in terms of being able to growth and scale, bringing on additional hands. And I think this is very interesting because it's one of those things where it's not that you can't do more.

[00:09:19] Chris Furlong: It's, it's more about you're either going to have to do something smarter. Like something has to change. You have to spice it up or you have to have more pair of hands unless you're getting in like a big, massive bulk hole of, you know, 10,000 items, which you've been able to pay very little for. Then all of a sudden you've leveled up because you've got a scale.

[00:09:37] Chris Furlong: Um, you know, for instance like JT from over in perk, you know, how she got all those items and that in itself has enabled her to grow. Just insanely quickly and scale very quickly, but you know, I think you've done it in a, in a great way in terms of you being out of scale. And it hasn't been overwhelming because you've been able to adjust to the next scaling point.

[00:09:56] Chris Furlong: And I think it's really interesting to hear that now you're being self-aware that you probably have a little bit more push to maybe a bit more 40,000. Um, but I guess so the, the main, big kick of, I don't want to get from this just to help anyone that's listening is okay. So what are you doing different between getting to a hundred thousand to getting to that hundred and 40,000?

[00:10:14] Chris Furlong: Cause I feel like that 40,000 is actually going to be a lot harder than doing that that hundred thousand.

[00:10:20] Matt Diedrich: Yeah, look, I think the first thing that comes to mind is it's all of the experience that I've had in the first year. Like it's almost like the same output just with my knowledge that I've gained from the first year we get to 140.

[00:10:33] Matt Diedrich: It's not the extra hours that you're putting into it to bump yourself for that extra 40 K it's just that you're now an experienced reseller. You know what, um, you know, you're, you're more efficient in the areas that you've, weren't efficient in when you first started. So that's allowing you the more time to go out and maybe source for an extra item that you can still, or at least find an item that's going to be worth more money that you didn't know of otherwise.

[00:10:55] Matt Diedrich: So I would say that I've really over the last 12 months to just learnt so much. And it's, it's funny in that in the Instagram messages that I'll send out to people to try and push them to my YouTube channel, I'll say, oh, in that, I'll say that we're always learning in this game and we literally are always learning.

[00:11:11] Matt Diedrich: And I think. They convert across to want to follow because they resonate to the fact that they're in a position of trying to learn. And no matter how big or small you are as a reseller, you're learning every day. No one knows everything when it comes to it. So, um, I've just learnt a lot over the last 12 months I'm continuing to learn.

[00:11:29] Matt Diedrich: Um, and that alone is saying the process of trying to get to where I need to go. It almost becomes slightly more easier because I'm not trying to find a failure in certain places. Um, granted though there is more workload because when, like I said before, when more sales come in yeah. More workload, um, results, but I've just improved many.

[00:11:49] Matt Diedrich: I should say efficiencies. Um, yeah. And, uh, yeah, that's, that's probably been the biggest one, but I didn't really want to set a goal that was too far reaching as well, because there's a side gig there with YouTube as well. And, you know, I wanted to go from a hundred to 140 and not feel like I was going to be stressing myself out throughout the year.

[00:12:05] Matt Diedrich: I think it's achievable and it's going to be based on those, those learnings done pro so really great

[00:12:11] Chris Furlong: way that you've answered that. And look, I mean, there's not, I don't think there's any right or wrong. It's going to be different for every different person, but I think it's important how you've looked at that because you're right, because you've now got efficiencies.

[00:12:22] Chris Furlong: You've got experience you. What used to take you 10 minutes now takes you to. Because you're scaling, you're able to then reuse that time to then manage all the sales and do the postage, because the postage isn't going to get, it will get a little quicker because you know, you've worked out your processes and systems, but if you've got a hundred items to ship, you know, it's still going to probably take you, you know, three minutes per ride, right.

[00:12:42] Chris Furlong: Like that's unfortunately the way it is. Um, whereas, you know, back in the day, when you were doing 20 items that might have taken you five minutes or six minutes, right. So you're almost in the same time bound. So, um, I think that's really cool. Right. And I mean, and obviously everyone, this is revenue, it's not profit, um, for full, if you're a happy to share it, what would be your, your current profit sitting around or what are you, what are you basically paying yourself when you're thinking about a hundred or 140,000 of revenue?

[00:13:11] Matt Diedrich: It's probably four to four and a half grand a month. I'm at level a hundred. If I'm at 140, it's probably about four and a half to five, depending on whether the numbers lie. Um, to me that that's, you know, that's the bare bones of a full-time job. It's, you know, $50,000 a year at that point. Um, and, um, and then, you know, YouTube goes on top of that, to be honest with you, I'm like, I really am at a crossroads of, of really trying to grow.

[00:13:33] Matt Diedrich: And it's actually the scary, the scary side of bringing in employees. That's, that's, that's scary. I've never done that before. Um, I'm nervous about that and I'm nervous about how I'm going to go about doing it hopefully, right. The first time around which may not be the case. Um, but there was no real risk.

[00:13:48] Matt Diedrich: Initially when you get yourself up to a hundred, that's very personal. It's just, you can do it. Anyone can do it, but if I've got these goals and aspirations for the next stage, yes. If I can get to 140, but if I wanted to surpass that and if I've got the cash through YouTube and reselling to invest in staff members, Yeah, that's nervous that that growth stage that I'm in now is nervous time.

[00:14:07] Matt Diedrich: And, uh, and the other one is well, is, is, I've never said it actually on my YouTube channel again, this first song, I'm going to be saying it to you, but, um, mum and dad here at the house, and I'm working out of there going to be selling the market's really, really, really good. You're on the gold cut. Like it's real property is flaw.

[00:14:22] Matt Diedrich: The flattening of it hasn't helped of recent times, but, um, they've given me a bit of a tap on the shoulder of them. I've said, Matt, w we might just, you know, pocket our numbers and get out of your move to something a bit smaller. So that is the really big thing for me to have to look at now on a growth perspective of what's going to be three, five years time, do you need a storage unit?

[00:14:41] Matt Diedrich: What are the costs associated to that? I think going to be able to fill in your employees in that storage area, whatever the case may be. I've got to think about that now as well. So. It hasn't taken place in a research stage, but this big,

[00:14:57] Chris Furlong: because right there, you basically just said that, you know, you've been not saying that you've had it easy for the last, you know, year and a half, but you've had a pretty good flow system.

[00:15:05] Chris Furlong: Obviously you've got circumstances that you can manage that might not everyone have, but just

[00:15:10] Matt Diedrich: less, less grit, less risk, right? Like you, you rent for it, your parents' place. That's great. Um, you, you, you're working only with yourself. There's no other helpers. There's no other person relying on a paycheck to then having a really large expense of having to pay, you know, three, $400 a week for a storage unit and then having to pay a hundred to $200, depending on how many hours this person works and that relying on that paycheck.

[00:15:34] Matt Diedrich: So you've now got really big business responsibilities that you didn't have. Otherwise

[00:15:39] Chris Furlong: it's funny, all of a sudden it's like, now you're back at zero again, in some sense, because you have to replay everything and cater for it, which is really good. Right? As you said, you're scared and it makes you feel nervous and you know, and it is, and that's good because it means that you are at that tipping point of jumping outside of that comfort zone.

[00:15:55] Chris Furlong: I'm actually excited for you, man, because there'll probably be people listening to this and is like, oh, finally, he's on the same playing field. Right. Because you know, there's probably people that don't have that ability to be able to, you know, break free or, you know, have it at their parents' place and things.

[00:16:09] Chris Furlong: And it does, it brings a whole new, I guess, putting a bit more, um, you know, skin in the game, you know, in some sense, I mean, I think it's funny though, because you're aiming for that 140, that 40 actually might fill the gap. Right. In some sense, especially for the next year, you know, trial and error we've, you know, having people come through and getting a place to store it and it's it's, I mean, congratulations, in some sense, because I feel like that's, that helps you then take it to the next level.

[00:16:35] Chris Furlong: It forces you to take it to the next.

[00:16:38] Matt Diedrich: It has to happen. You can't be, you're not going to go far when it's just yourself and you don't like, I don't want this eBay thing to be hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, but like the flexibility of having somebody to assist me as a bit of a right-hand man.

[00:16:52] Matt Diedrich: So I can focus on YouTube because I'm so passionate about the YouTube. And there's a lot of day-to-day administrative tasks with reselling, like, you know, very well that you don't necessarily need to do to get the job. Yeah, well, so if I could be passing that off with the revenue that I'm going to be generating, surpassed what I need to live on a daily basis, it's just going to make me a little bit more free to not only do work tasks, but also personal, just social life, the latter tasks, which I know we'll touch on a little bit later, but, um, that's been a real focus and I'll put out a video around the whole hustle culture mindset.

[00:17:24] Matt Diedrich: And I don't want to fall into that, you know, rise and grind mentality, because that's not why I got into the game, but I feel like money brings the opportunity to really invest back into your business, to help the whole work-life balance be successful. So rather than me just putting that to myself and having that as my own income, I almost just want to keep working on that from a financial perspective on a, on an earnings front, and then put every other dollar that I generate back into the business from here on mean.

[00:17:51] Matt Diedrich: Um, first two things will be your air. It will, will be the warehouse of some, some description. And, uh, and my first sort of, um, part-time I guess, employee to help me get that work-life balance. So cool. That's

[00:18:01] Chris Furlong: great. And like, I mean, we could chat hours on this side. So people that are listening in from the reselling community or anyone that's just curious, I mean, head over to his channel, Ozzy flipper, or hit him up on Instagram and you can ask a bit more into this, but from, from this conversation, I want to dive into the next thing of, of the last year we've excuse me, of the last year of building out the YouTube, the business, and then just you growing as an individual.

[00:18:25] Chris Furlong: What, what lessons have you learned from doing this? You know, in terms of that applies to a broader perspective to life rather than just a business, because you would have had to like, like you're feeling now, you've probably gotten a little uncomfortable, you've had to adjust, you have to try new things.

[00:18:40] Chris Furlong: You've had. Fun new routines. What are some of the big lessons, if there's a couple off the top of your head that you've taken away from the last year to 18 months from building these two, I guess two platforms of area.

[00:18:53] Matt Diedrich: Yeah. I'll look, I think furthering your lifestyle, no matter what you're doing, if it's a business thing, if it's to a personal health perspective, patience and dedication, that's really, what's got me to where I've got to.

[00:19:07] Matt Diedrich: And if I think about all the different things that I've learned and all the different things that I've been able to do and achieve it was the patients to persist and it was the dedication to just continually do the little day-to-day things correctly. So I think a lot of people, unfortunately battle with that.

[00:19:21] Matt Diedrich: They aren't patient. They want it all to happen straight away. They want the a hundred thousand dollars in six months or in three months. Um, and it just, it literally doesn't happen. I probably would have said it in our podcast. Um, last year, I gave myself a three-year runway to tick off all these goals that I had in place.

[00:19:38] Matt Diedrich: Before I considered going back to a nine to five job, I wanted to give myself three years worth of crack. And to be honest, I, I really don't think too many people with. To give themselves three years, they would put it up. That's too long timeframe. Um, so it's not so much a learning because I kind of went in with that mentality, but it was more a realization that you can't do need those key attributes.

[00:19:59] Matt Diedrich: And fortunately, I've got those key attributes and, you know, if you want to run a marathon or an ultra marathon, as you like to do it crazy, dude, um, you're going to make that dedication or you're going to need that patience and persistence to get yourself and get your body to that point. We can withstand all those crazy limiters so you can put it in any aspect of life.

[00:20:18] Matt Diedrich: And I feel like any sort of task that I would tackle. Um, I would just, I always seem to just dive right in headfirst. I never give up, never quit. Um, always took small goals in place to get to the big picture, which I know you do very, very well and can relate to this. Um, and yeah, just, just stick with it and be patient.

[00:20:35] Matt Diedrich: Now that that's, I mean,

[00:20:36] Chris Furlong: it expired at Boston. I mean, it's going to be different for everyone, but I think. You know, from that as well, do you think because you enjoy it and it, I mean, I guess you're probably passionate about it, but I think it's, you know, it's not like it's not like three years ago that you were already doing reselling.

[00:20:53] Chris Furlong: It's just so happened that this has fallen within what you're passionate about, whether it is selling in generating leads and people coming over and building the YouTube. Um, and you know, it's not that it's about doing the grind, but you understand that doing this consistently pays off, um, and being able to see that, that fair point.

[00:21:11] Chris Furlong: And I think setting that expectation to yourself around a three-year journey. And let's see what happens, that that helps take some of the load off, right. Because, you know, if someone's saying I'm going to give it six months and then I hit it, or like, I'm going to give up, but because you're giving yourself a runway, it kind of like if I fail on the first year, I still got two years to doubles out.

[00:21:31] Matt Diedrich: You're not, you're not patient and dedicated to run and challenge yourself for an ultra marathon because you don't like. Right. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. You like to run and, and therefore you can persist and you can be dedicated and you can achieve some pretty crazy results, but it all comes back to the fact that you just simply passionate about doing that.

[00:21:50] Matt Diedrich: If I told you to build something like a big Lego castle and you didn't like Lego, you're probably not going to persist to learn all the intricacies that comes to building a Lego. So yeah, that for me was a massive thing before I even got started is if I am going to be patient and dedicated, what do I like to do that?

[00:22:04] Matt Diedrich: That's going to allow me to be able to do that. You spoke before. And the fact that I was in a sales role, how do I bring a sales role aspect of something that I would start from myself? Well, that's pretty easy. It's pretty broad, but broad and generic, but also too. How do you feed the base of being able to present and do you know, proposals?

[00:22:20] Matt Diedrich: Like I used to do, you know, to be selling things on eBay, where there's no face to face communication. I can get that passion out of creating staff by doing YouTube videos. So every single aspect that I've chosen to go into through a few weeks and months of thinking about what's my next step will be when you coronavirus last year.

[00:22:39] Matt Diedrich: And I was working my nine to five, it was one of all my passions and what are actually, yeah, Gary V will say this all the time. And I listened to a lot of Gary V like everybody does, but it's that just that self-awareness as well. I really kind of took that on board and I'm like, what am I good at? Well, I had success in my nine to five job in the sales role, and I really do enjoy that.

[00:22:56] Matt Diedrich: And that's probably why I had the success. Let's just go and put that in place. In eBay and, and sell your stuff there. And then talk about an educated with people through a YouTube channel as well. And you kind of getting that, I guess, that personal touch of me being able to present on camera, we would absolutely love to do.

[00:23:10] Matt Diedrich: And then something that I didn't even realize is the creativity aspect that I didn't get with no one a fault. So it's actually gone ahead and opened up more doors that I didn't even know about, but jumping in what I'm doing. So the whole creativity in the marketing aspect of YouTube is fascinating to me.

[00:23:28] Matt Diedrich: And, um, yeah, it, it, it, like I said, it all comes back to being passionate about it. I love it.

[00:23:33] Chris Furlong: That's the secrets to success right there. Guys. We can probably finish the buck ass and wrap it up and it's all on everyone else to go do it. I think that's a

[00:23:40] Matt Diedrich: full stop.

[00:23:42] Chris Furlong: It's not, it it's, it's really good. Right.

[00:23:43] Chris Furlong: And like I said, you've gone through that journey and you're self aware of it and the passion has to, has to work. And like I said, whether it is reselling, whether it's running or whatever you're doing, we see other people doing things and we think, oh, I can do that. And you get into it. You really. And you just can't get into it.

[00:23:59] Chris Furlong: And it's not that it's not that it's, that you're not good at it, but if you don't enjoy it, you're not going to have the ability to push forward and to get, you know, get through those really deep valleys when it is, you know, a bad week. Um, and things like that. So now you're, you've said it really, really well, man, it, and I thank you for sharing that.

[00:24:16] Chris Furlong: I think that will resonate with a lot of people in, in so many different ways. Cause it's the reality.

[00:24:22] Matt Diedrich: It's completely the reality of it. Yeah. Everyone knows what they are interested in. And the other thing is you can monetize whatever you're interested in as well in this day and age, a hundred percent literally absolutely anything.

[00:24:31] Matt Diedrich: And you do it yourself. You're a run up, but now you're monetizing the fact that you're a runner and there's sponsorship opportunities that come along with that. There's, um, you know, YouTube advertisement that comes along with that. Uh, we're in a crazy world that we can do this. And I think it's just educating people.

[00:24:47] Matt Diedrich: You know, when I first told people what I was doing and I still to this day, people don't really, they don't really understand that. Like how, how do you make money on YouTube? But isn't that just something a hobby. And how do you sell enough items for it to be a full-time job? That's surely not sustainable.

[00:25:02] Matt Diedrich: Yeah. It just don't get the fact that you can do it. And it is with that determination. And with that patience that will allow you to get it there. It's not going to be an overnight thing, but they use to monetize. These sorts of passions is, um, is completely possible. So I recommend anybody out there.

[00:25:17] Matt Diedrich: That's listening to this podcast, have a think, write three things down that you're super passionate about, that you just love to do. Don't even think about monetizing it or not just write those three things down and then consider ways that you could potentially monetize it on the internet. And you could literally have that become a full-time job.

[00:25:33] Matt Diedrich: No matter what you write down. I have full

[00:25:36] Chris Furlong: confidence and look, you know, looking people. If you want to see how it happens. Well, you know, go follow Matt's journey. Heck you can go see your mind starting from zero as well. You build it up and it's not about. Anyone's bigger and better look like we said, there's different advantages and whatnot, but that's, that's like with anyone, we all have our different advantages, but it is that going through the process and getting the experience, learning, having fun along the way, and just putting that blood, sweat, and tears, AKI, passion into it.

[00:26:03] Chris Furlong: Um, and, and, and coming out the other end and right. And then you reap the rewards and then you continue to see how you grow from it. And look at

[00:26:12] Matt Diedrich: growing slow to food. Chris, I'm saying it's

[00:26:16] Chris Furlong: gotta be overnight.

[00:26:17] Matt Diedrich: Like I talking about growing slow all the time. I think, I think I would really like to stop pushing that message really hard on my channel and, and the way that I communicate out there to say that turning $5 into a hundred dollars is amazing, but don't be disappointed that you're not, you don't have a thousand dollars.

[00:26:33] Matt Diedrich: You've only got a hundred bucks just really grows slow. No, that will take a lot of time and be okay with the period that you're in at the moment. If you're just starting out, be okay with that. You are literally just starting out. It's not going to happen. That's

[00:26:45] Chris Furlong: it. I love it. We could talk about this for ages.

[00:26:48] Chris Furlong: Um, all right. So w we've touched on some of the lessons from the last year and the next thing that I want to touch on. And, you know, we, we, we, we spoke about a bit earlier is then actual areas in your life at the moment that you're trying to further your life with. Right. And, you know, there's a whole bunch of different topics we could dive into it.

[00:27:03] Chris Furlong: I think the first one we'll we'll probably touch on is, um, around travel and, you know, that's quite relevant in your, in your latest YouTube videos is I hear you're about to head over to the USA. Um, but what, why travel? So how is that to, to further your.

[00:27:19] Matt Diedrich: Well, my backstory before you and I got underway with is selling, was that I was traveling a lot in, and that was, that was just personal enjoyment of wanting to travel at a young age and just say the world.

[00:27:28] Matt Diedrich: And, um, and then I used it work overseas as well. And I took a Bader in Canada and I worked for a soccer club in the sporting industry that I was a part of. So I would've touched on it. Maybe in the first step podcast last year, there was five years of travel and COVID stop travel. So it's been two years now since I've been unable to even think about it.

[00:27:46] Matt Diedrich: And I figured if I want to get that, that balance back then, I'm looking for travel. It's going to be a large part of that. And look yes, that the trip that I've got going over to the states is going to be a heavily. Work-related trip, but I also want to have elements of just personal travel, come back into my wife.

[00:28:00] Matt Diedrich: And if I'm not creating YouTube videos about it, I'm just going away and enjoying it. Even with friends and family, there's a wedding back over in Perth, which is where I was prior to, to coming back to, uh, to the gold coast. And, um, I'm really looking forward to getting back over there and not even having the camera on just literally going over there to catch up with everybody.

[00:28:17] Matt Diedrich: So, yeah. Um, I feel like I really do need that, I guess, personal connection with friends and family. And I've got now through the travel that I've done previously, a lot of friends in a lot of different pockets of the world yourself, obviously down in Melbourne. Um, so yeah, that's going to be a big focus that really isn't the only been able to just unlock recently, um, with border restrictions easing, and I guess I've felt a little bit more, I guess I've just generally felt a little bit more happy because I know that even if I'm not doing it now, it's the possibility that you just can again.

[00:28:45] Matt Diedrich: Yep.

[00:28:46] Chris Furlong: Yep. And that's good. I guess, you know, in the middle of it all, you probably, even if it was open, it might've been a bit, ah, you know, maybe not feeling that exciting cause it's just, you know, there's just so many unknown and uncertainty, but now that things are starting to get sensible and Laddy, daddy died, you know, you starting to get that, that fires burning back again.

[00:29:03] Chris Furlong: And um, you know, like it's one of those things I totally resonate with. Um, I mean I've never been a big traveler overseas, but then when I started to do it, um, my girlfriend and, and friends, you know, you start to realize just, you know, it brings you fresh perspective. You, you learn new things, it's different experience and it does, it gets you out of your current comfort zone.

[00:29:22] Chris Furlong: Um, and every, I mean, sometimes plants, um, nothing, nothing race, uh, you know, in the, in the yeah, looking close,

[00:29:34] Chris Furlong: actually. That's true. I know there's, there's the marathon up in gold coast in about, I think it's in 12 weeks actually. Um, Yeah, maybe I'm not, I'm not going to cause I've got, I've got a bigger goal for the end of the year and I have to reprioritize it, but I definitely, um, would love to try and get some more running ins different stakes because you get different environments.

[00:29:55] Matt Diedrich: I'm happy to be 20 minutes behind you in the marathon. As long as we can have a beer with

[00:30:03] Matt Diedrich: you, you would smash me in a marathon. If you went off, we should do a YouTube video of you and I running the gold coast marathon. That would be, that would be amazing.

[00:30:12] Chris Furlong: And then yeah, it actually it'd be, that would actually be really good because I know, I know for you and I know we're getting totally off topic here, but I know for you, you'd like to run fast and so it would be a real big game changer for you to have.

[00:30:26] Chris Furlong: 'cause what's your, what's your longest distance you've done. Have you done a

[00:30:28] Matt Diedrich: matter? I've done a marathon. Yeah, but I was 4, 8, 4 hours, 18 minutes. And I wanted to go, I was training to go on to four

[00:30:35] Chris Furlong: mine's 4 44. So you still up bombing, man,

[00:30:39] Matt Diedrich: you're still, but I'm not, I'm not for 18 today, Chris. That's true.

[00:30:45] Matt Diedrich: Even when I ran for it. Ain't but you would be well ahead of me today. Love it. So

[00:30:49] Chris Furlong: it's, it's definitely something that we might have to chat about offline and see what we can do.

[00:30:53] Matt Diedrich: Um, but I'm sure you guys would want to play it.

[00:30:56] Chris Furlong: Who wants to say it? Let us know in the comments. Um, Jeff is this it's kind of throwing me off track.

[00:31:03] Chris Furlong: Travel. Yeah, I totally agree. And I think, you know, that element even doing what we've just spoken about and being able to go over there and then just hang out and do that kind of thing. It's something which, you know, we've, we've all laughed in the last, you know, one or two years. Um, I've actually built better relationships, you know, online and having conversations like this.

[00:31:20] Chris Furlong: And I'm keen to, if anything, I would like to just get out and go do pods with people in the flesh, uh, catch up because it's a whole different experience. You have to learn in a different way. Um, and it'd be a great way to grow and just, you know, experience it. And I think that's a good segue to the second point that I know you really want to start pushing onto more is around your social life.

[00:31:43] Chris Furlong: And you kind of touched on already with the travel as well, but I mean, what are some of the elements there that why, and you know, how do you think that's going to help you with.

[00:31:52] Matt Diedrich: Well, it's so important. And I personally, I mean, look, it made, I dunno how it couldn't be, but it may not be super important to some people, but for me, friends and family, that's the reason why I got into race selling or working for myself was to have, I guess, the flexibility and freedom to be able to catch up with friends and family and to come back to the gold coast, which is where I'm from and to have literally on that, working at my parents' place, which I wasn't able to see for five years while I was away.

[00:32:15] Matt Diedrich: So I've got a younger sister as well, her partner that are awesome to hang out with. Um, and really, to be honest with you, I found, yeah. Talking about trying to get employees in to give me assistance. I've found that over the last 18 months, it's just been me working in way and I've really kind of just punted all of that stuff.

[00:32:33] Matt Diedrich: That was the reason why I initially got into in the first place. And I know that you need to put it in the time, but I put out a video around hustle culture on YouTube. And it was really because I was truly battling with just the work mentality of just needing to do this. You need to grow this.

[00:32:45] Matt Diedrich: Everything needs to happen quickly. And it was now take it back, say, get a bit of balance back in your life, go and catch up with your friends and family. That's why you here in the first place, um, through the, the 1% is that you need to do to keep the business moving, but maybe don't do any extras. Don't do all the stuff that you like you should do.

[00:33:02] Matt Diedrich: Maybe just punt that for a second and try and bring that balance back because, um, like I, it's a huge lifestyle factor for me to have that, but do I have that right now? Probably not. And, um, it's just the guidance of reaching back out to mates. Again. It's not like I haven't saved my mates for a long time.

[00:33:17] Matt Diedrich: It's just, I don't get that regular hangout. Um, yeah, I just find that super important and it's going to make my work better as well. If we bring that. So, yeah, I know that I need to do it. It's going to be a bit of work, um, to try and keep the numbers of the business and the YouTube channel generating as it is.

[00:33:34] Matt Diedrich: But even if it falls away, I've gotta be okay with that to get the balance back.

[00:33:38] Chris Furlong: It's, it's one of the things that w we'll deal with it in different ways, whether you are working a nine to five, you know, we tend to bury our problems and just keep working. And then when you are, I don't know, something like building your own business or a passion project, it becomes your baby.

[00:33:51] Chris Furlong: It becomes everything you love. And, and you know, it's not that you're addicted to it, but in some sense, it is edits and it's like an unstated thing because you just love to pull the energy. But then, yeah, I mean, I love it. It's like, you know, going after the thrift, you want to get this, you want to see the numbers, you want to see all that.

[00:34:08] Chris Furlong: And it's not about, cause you want to show that you're a baller and you've got all this money. It's like, you're doing it yourself. Um, and you know, it's whether it's a selfish thing because it's making you feel better, which probably is. Um, but at the end of the day, that's what we thrive. Right. If you were working a nine to five, everyone's always like, oh, I want to get to that next level to get to the promotion.

[00:34:27] Chris Furlong: Or I want to be doing this role, or I want to try that. And that's, that's who we are naturally. Right. We'd like to pursue things and always chasing the next thing. And you know, once you get to that 140,000, I'm sure you'd probably be like, okay, how do we, what's next? You know, like, um, It's it, that's, that's part of it.

[00:34:44] Chris Furlong: Right. But I think, you know, having the people around you, who you surround yourself with is going to enable you to grow and, um, they're going to potentially open new doors for you or give you a fresh perspective or maybe they're not, and they're just going to give you some time to just rest and just chill out.

[00:34:57] Chris Furlong: Right. And I think either of those is going to be a win regardless. Um, like this weekend I've, um, I met my girlfriends and all today, I've just been making sure I can get as much done as possible so I can take the weekend off. Right. So like, you know, this morning was just all editing and getting things done because I dropped a video tomorrow.

[00:35:14] Chris Furlong: I've got the, the podcasts, the different podcasts comes out on, on, um, on Sunday at different episodes. And then I've actually got my co-host podcast coming out on Monday. So doing all that so I can try and just, you know, if I just want to go thrifting or just hang out with my girlfriend or just go running and I don't have to worry about I'm going to be back to do this, edit to get it dropped by this time.

[00:35:33] Chris Furlong: And, um, that doesn't happen very often, but when you get that chance to do it, you know, it means you can. Kick back. I can do whatever you want and just see where the road takes you. And I, I know, I know that's what you want.

[00:35:46] Matt Diedrich: Tom Hawaiian, a dialogue. I work every day. If I can be taking Saturdays off and even just double listing up on a Friday afternoon.

[00:35:53] Matt Diedrich: So I can take that full day off on Saturday night. There's no YouTube video, no recordings that take place on a Saturday. So it really can be a dye to switch off and get back into, get back into running again and get back into catching up with friends and family. Everyone else's free on that Saturday. So, um, I figure it's the perfect day of the week for me to be, to be taking my, but to be honest with you, I find that it's a fallback work is a fallback.

[00:36:14] Matt Diedrich: If it's, if there's, what could you do? What could you do? It's it's almost like this weird comfort to just fall back into I'll just punch out another three or four hours. I'll just, I'll just, I'll just tinker with my spreadsheet and make sure my numbers are progressing. Don't tell me you're not a tinker on,

[00:36:30] Chris Furlong: oh, the time I was doing like 15 minutes before this while I was just ready to go.

[00:36:35] Chris Furlong: I was just playing around with a

[00:36:35] Matt Diedrich: few pics. So I know you were, I know you were, we were very similar UNR. I don't, I don't think I need to be doing that. I know there's certain things where I'm like, nah, you don't need to do that. If you can step away and you'll, you're chewing up valuable time. You could be getting yourself away to put yourself in a better position for when you do come back and have to do the important stuff in the business.

[00:36:55] Matt Diedrich: So it's really, yeah.

[00:36:58] Chris Furlong: The thing I've realized with that and my, and I I've done it today. Like, I've been, like I said, you know, well, if anyone hasn't realized I've been unwell for the last 10 days, so some things I have put on the back burner with some things I've just kept, you know, to keep the lights on.

[00:37:10] Chris Furlong: And, um, you know, I wanted to make sure I, I can spend some time with my girlfriend this weekend. The good thing about the way I kind of do it is knowing well, if I want that, I have to give myself a short amount of time to get these things done, because, you know, there's that saying, if you give a busy man something, you know, you'll get it done.

[00:37:27] Chris Furlong: And because otherwise, if I had three days to do it, you know, I kind of be like, ah, you know, you kinda, you know, wait till the last minute and then you're stressing. Whereas, um, today actually it's just gone really, really well. And I got into a good flow, got up early and got it done. And some weeks it's not like that, like two weeks ago I was doing editing Friday, Saturday, and even a little bit on Sunday.

[00:37:46] Chris Furlong: Um, and it's not always going to be perfect, but I think the more things you can put in place to do that, um, and I'm speaking to myself here as well. Uh, you know, we start to realize the benefits. Like I'm, I'm excited because now I don't have to necessarily do much, you know, twinkling or anything over the weekend.

[00:38:02] Chris Furlong: I can kind of just see what happens. And, um, it, this, this conversation is it's really easier said than done. I must admit because.

[00:38:11] Matt Diedrich: You don't talk to, you don't even think it's kinda like, I wouldn't have thought this would be an issue for me. I worked, I worked with a lot of hours cause football you'd have to work weekends as well in the food industry that there were times.

[00:38:22] Matt Diedrich: Um, so I would get a Sunday off every week and it was almost like that mindset of doing the 60 hour work weeks I was already used to. So when I adapted to this, my numbers, weren't where they needed to be on an earnings front. And so I felt like I needed to do a ton of hours. Um, and that really hasn't fallen back since I've been able to get it to that first level.

[00:38:38] Matt Diedrich: So, um, I think it's, it's yeah, just something that I wasn't even aware of because when you're in that culture on a Workfront, in a football club, everyone else's in that same environment, but then when you, when you're not doing it and you're doing it by yourself, you kind of just have a bit more time to assess and go, hold on a minute.

[00:38:54] Matt Diedrich: This is just me doing this. Everyone else, my friends and family, they aren't doing it. Do I need to be doing it? Well, probably not. Things are actually, I can tell you the way they are. If you just try and take a step back, it's not going to be the end of the world. And you get to feel a lot happier for doing it and having the time off.

[00:39:09] Matt Diedrich: It's only been maybe a month or two that I've really looked at that. Um, it's just a very weed out period that I'm in now trying to like grow up to the next level. But I'm also trying to fall back and try and find the balance. It's really true to the minute. And it's

[00:39:23] Chris Furlong: probably because you have hit you starting to hit that ceiling.

[00:39:26] Chris Furlong: Right. And you're realizing that you want more, but something has to give, but at the same time, as you said, your whole intention of this was to be able to give yourself that flexible working lifestyle. So you can hang out with friends, it's bringing,

[00:39:39] Matt Diedrich: it's bringing hands even to give you a helping hand. So, but yeah,

[00:39:43] Chris Furlong: it's just funny though.

[00:39:44] Chris Furlong: Like now you have to change something else. You're going to have to teach someone else. So it's going to actually put a bit more investment. And if I did it, like, I totally get it because I'm at the same point and look full transparency for everyone that's listening, you know, I'm trying to do so many different things and it's like, well, if I want to grow my podcast and he spend more time on it, but I literally have to do the reselling depending on.

[00:40:05] Chris Furlong: You know, and not that I have a lot of bills, but you know, I want to save, I want to invest. I don't want to just be eating into my savings all the time. So it's a catch 22. So it's like either I have to earn a different, have another source of income somehow, or I need to have someone else doing something for me.

[00:40:20] Chris Furlong: So I have more time to put onto the business, not in the business. And it's really, it is a battle. And that will come with anything that we do because you will cap, right? Because there were only one person you only have, you know, 40 hour working weeks or however long you're working, working each week. But there is only, you know, 30, 31 days in a month anyway.

[00:40:38] Chris Furlong: So you're all going to, you're going to cap. Um, and, but then it's about looking at, well, what can you get in to help you? What systems can you put in place? Is it people? Is it what software, whatever. And this I'm not just talking about reselling, I'm talking about whatever. Um, Yeah. It like, like I said, we could chat on this for a long time, but I think it's a real, real, it's the real deal.

[00:40:59] Chris Furlong: Um, it's, I'm always struggling with myself and I appreciate you sharing that. And I know one thing that you said before, this is, you know, like you want to be able to do more exercise, which is actually the third point we were going to touch on around food in your life. Um, so when you're talking about exercise, I know we've chat and you are running, you know, you had to step away from running a bit and now you're trying to get back into it.

[00:41:19] Chris Furlong: But when you talk about exercising, so how do you think that's going to help further your life, but also, why are you trying to make sure it's a sure thing.

[00:41:29] Matt Diedrich: There might be some people out there that can resonate because I think I'm the only one for me running and just general exercise, going to the gym, playing any sort of social sport.

[00:41:36] Matt Diedrich: I played basketball on a Monday night. That's very important to me. It's almost like an active meditation. I'm not a meditator to myself. I don't, I don't sit there and, and put the, the app on and tune out for 10 minutes a day like others do. But I kind of get that through, going for a run and putting in some loud music into my ears, not thinking about anything, but just trying to get the next breath out so I can make myself do a complete lap.

[00:41:58] Matt Diedrich: Um, but I genuinely, I can really break up a Workday. And go home and switch off completely at home because I had that run. So it's, it's almost, it's almost active meditation and a mental thing for me so much more so than a physical thing. Um, as much as obviously want to be as fit and healthy as I possibly can be.

[00:42:15] Matt Diedrich: But yeah, I would say it's probably more 50, 50 mentally as to the reason why I do it. Um, but it's also a huge passion of mine. I've run since, um, since cross country days at high school. Wow. That's when I first looked into it, I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. And you'd go off to regionals and we'd run off into the woods in, in one of the local parks near our school and we'd compare it against the other schools.

[00:42:36] Matt Diedrich: And, um, yeah, that's where I first started to run and enjoy running. And then I used to run with my dad and dad and I used to have a running thing for my football. I used to play football. And he would set off, obviously my old man he's, he's, you know, 30, 40 years older than me. And I would set him off for three or four minutes and then I would try and chase.

[00:42:55] Matt Diedrich: And we did that. We did that, probably my entire childhood through my teenage years and high school, um, for my football training. And he used to, we used to have some serious competition, the old man and everyone trying to beat each other. And we would get down to the code of the SAC run, where it was like a 50 meter stretch and we would be neck and neck.

[00:43:13] Matt Diedrich: We've got it down to a science. We've got it down to a few seconds. So. I've obviously got good memories from those sorts of things. So that's why the running has always kind of remained for me. And I've always kind of been persistent and dedicated to that because it is a passage and everything that we've spoken about.

[00:43:28] Matt Diedrich: But, um, I've been sick a bit like you I've been sick over the last couple of months. I was coronavirus in December, January, and then I was shingles, shingles, nasty. It was nasty. And, um, that hit me for about three or four weeks. And I think, um, it's pretty much gotten to what now start a March. And I'm really only feeling like I can get back to doing that and man, to not do it for two months, I kind of imagined, I realize how important it is to my work.

[00:43:55] Matt Diedrich: I couldn't, I couldn't fathom just like catching up with friends when I wasn't working, go to bed, have dinner, whatever the case may be and not to exercise because there just wouldn't be a happier person if I was doing that. Um, and I noticed that in the two months of being sick and away from it, I literally could not train, I could not run.

[00:44:12] Matt Diedrich: Um, and I, I really felt that for the very first time. So a huge thing for me, but also mentally to make yourself feel good. And then obviously when you go into your work mode to work better,

[00:44:22] Chris Furlong: it's really good. Like, I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't know. I resonate with that so well, like, you know, I've had 10 days off in, you know, not running.

[00:44:30] Chris Furlong: I was just like, oh my gosh. And you know, I not, not being able to meet my goals or I'm not, you know, just getting out and just feeling exercise, right. I mean, but you know, what I'm taking from all this is like with, uh, with a union. Prior, or you've only really discovered it in the last year and a half is it sounds like you've got some really strong pillars that are building up your life.

[00:44:50] Chris Furlong: And I think it's interesting because if I had asked you these questions, three, four years ago, you probably would have had the same answers. Like you wouldn't have realized how much you enjoyed those things or, you know, and, and, you know, we, we change and, you know, you get into different hobbies and different things.

[00:45:05] Chris Furlong: That's your escape and whatnot. But it sounds like now, like, you know, if you were going to, if you were starting from zero again, you would have an idea of like, you need to make sure you build this into it. You want to be able to do this. And that's what you're creating. And now, now, because you have gotten to that point and you're realizing it now you're trying to switch it over, but still maintain everything at the same time.

[00:45:25] Chris Furlong: I

[00:45:26] Matt Diedrich: think I lost, it was actually not playing team sport. I played a lot of, uh, I played a lot of cricket and I played a lot of football and that was year round. It would summer bitty, you know, summer winter sports. And I'd get that right. The way to go about 22 or so. And then I went away and did the travel and that the travel element was kind of like this, like for long holiday, where you're just constantly meeting people and all that sort of thing.

[00:45:45] Matt Diedrich: So I get that. And then, yeah, so you've got that, you've got that social element, which is one of the pillars. And then, you know, when you're playing team sport, you were working, you were communicating with them fellow coworkers, and then you would have all your best mates. You'd go out on a night out and have a beer after a game of footy or cricket.

[00:46:00] Matt Diedrich: You'd have got your physical health sorted by playing the game. Then you've had your social stuff sorted. So I lost kind of the travel aspect and the friends of social sport. And then I fell into the just simply. So it was like a realization of only about, I dunno, maybe four months ago when I started playing Monday night base basketball, it was okay.

[00:46:20] Matt Diedrich: You can't commit yourself to Tuesday, Thursday play on Saturday. If I played a game of footy, I'd probably pay a hamstring day one, not today. So let's just, let's just do Monday night basketball, no commitment other than get your mates together. W we just play with the social rec team 45 minutes every Monday.

[00:46:39] Matt Diedrich: Um, no real massive commitment, but a huge benefit because it brings back all the sort of super important to me. So, um, yeah, but these pillars that you speak of, I probably wouldn't even have thought about it. Um, you know, he's a good guy because I was naturally just doing it. But, um, this old world that we're in, in the, the position that I've put myself into on a Workfront has, um, has called me to try and reflect and go, well, how were you happy?

[00:47:01] Matt Diedrich: What were the things? And that that's everything that it was.

[00:47:05] Chris Furlong: Yeah, no, I love it. And I think we all have. Like these different routes or these different pillars and values. And like I said, they might change over time as we grow and develop or whatever. But I think it's important to, to have that self-awareness and take some time to discover what they are, because they're usually the motivators that are helping you either move towards something or actually motivating you to move away from something.

[00:47:26] Chris Furlong: Right. And once you've put them into play and actually, you know, you actually identify them, you can start to, I guess, leverage them as your unfair advantages or things that's going to help you thrive. And you know, for me, the running, it enables me to keep going because. You know, people think, how does running help you feel more alive?

[00:47:44] Chris Furlong: Because you're exhausted afterwards. But you know, that's my chill time. That's where I get to learn. I can listen to a podcast so I can just get out and express and clear the head and dump everything off me. Right. And then I can come back. You feel like you've already won the day and then start the day and go smash it out.

[00:47:57] Chris Furlong: Whereas when I don't have that in my routine, it's just like, eh, you know, it's, you know, you feel like something's not right. And, um, I think the more we, you know, I would encourage anyone to just have a deep dive and see what these pillars are. And like I said, there's no right or wrong with it. It's kind of identifies to you because it's one of those things which is going to lead into the next thing I asked you is like, you know, once you realize it, you'll start to think, oh, I should've started this earlier.

[00:48:22] Chris Furlong: Um, which, which is actually the next thing I want to ask you. And it doesn't have to be from these points, but I guess, you know what, what's one area of your life now that you know what you know now that you had wish you had started earlier.

[00:48:37] Matt Diedrich: Oh, working for myself for sure. Um, yeah, it's, it's pretty cool.

[00:48:42] Matt Diedrich: It's pretty cool. If you can, if you can get to a point where it is, what you do, um, you know, yeah. You only need to tell it to people. And like I said before, it's quite hard for people to get their head around the fact of the fact that you can be sustainable in selling on eBay. You can generate an income on YouTube.

[00:48:59] Matt Diedrich: I'm not saying that I'm, I'm, I'm wishing that I got into YouTube and reselling, but I just wish I even opened up the door of the thought of it, you know, in my, in my early twenties.

[00:49:10] Chris Furlong: Yeah. W was there a time in your twenties or early when you have thought about it or you had ideas.

[00:49:15] Matt Diedrich: Absolutely not Gary V every now and again.

[00:49:17] Matt Diedrich: Um, and I would on a thing yet. It's a bit of a pipe dream. That'd be a lot of work and a lot of the time, and I'm not in any form of financial position and take six months off to find out it. And then there's no guarantee that it'll even work. Um, but that's when the coronavirus hit and you don't have a choice, you have to correct the bias, kind of really in a, in a really, really weird way.

[00:49:38] Matt Diedrich: It kind of really made me reset. Not that I was disappointed with anything that I was doing. I speak a lot around the fact that up until the age of 30, which was coronavirus for me, it's my 30th birthday year. I had all of these accorded before 30. You'd appreciate this. It was all aspects of my life, um, every single pocket of my life.

[00:49:56] Matt Diedrich: And I had goals for every single one. And I can tell you that on my 30th birthday, before the virus, I ticked off every single one of them. Nice. And then, and then at the Corona virus, it all stopped. And I came back to the Gulf coast and every single one of the boxes that are tick had been removed out of my life.

[00:50:12] Matt Diedrich: And you were literally starting from. Bare bones had no say in it, the welded is the way that it is. There are a lot more people out there worse than I am, but every form of trajectory and direction that I was going in, I'm even talking to relationships. I broke up with my girlfriend at on to come back home, every single pocket, every single pocket of my world.

[00:50:31] Matt Diedrich: I was basically just with a backpack sitting in my parents' place where I was five years prior, before I'd gone away and all this travel. And I chose not to go back to Melbourne and take my nine to five job. It was the ultimate Ray said, albeit I wasn't in any danger. I wasn't in any financial stress, but I was in a complete reset stage.

[00:50:49] Matt Diedrich: And it was the first time that I ever thought about working for myself because I literally had so much time to analyze what could possibly go and do. But geez, I wish that I even put it as a bit of a thought process when I was 20 and status the side hustle that I could develop over the course of. To then be able to just transition out at 25, that would have been him

[00:51:09] Chris Furlong: because the only difference between you being 20 and you being 30.

[00:51:13] Chris Furlong: Cause I mean, I know you're not at your parents' place now, but that, you know, the last six months that's only just changed, but you know, 20, 30 you're at your parents' place, you don't really have much expenses. You don't have much responsibilities. Um, the only difference is really experience. That's the only difference that you would have.

[00:51:29] Chris Furlong: And I think I'm the same. Like, I, I mean, I've always been trying to start something and do something and find a way like, like literally I spoke about in the other week on the podcast, when I started working my nine to five, I was already listening to things of how to get out of it. Not because I didn't want my job.

[00:51:46] Chris Furlong: It was because I knew that that's not my, my end game. That's not where I want it to be. So I've always been trying to find a different way to do it. And you know, I've, I've tried and failed. Miserably and some things it's like, oh my gosh, why did I do this? But once again, it's that experience and trying, and then like you different circumstances get into that position where you click or you reset, or it forces you to click.

[00:52:09] Chris Furlong: And, um, I it's, it's hard because you know, here we are trying to tell people, you know, you've said you wish you had done it. And to anyone that's listening, that even has a little inkling of thought around what we're saying. Oh yeah, there's this idea. Or you're curious about something, please, please scratch that itch.

[00:52:27] Chris Furlong: Um, even I'm not saying go quit your job and just go full time on it, but scratch it enough to invest some time into it and see what could actually happen if you dedicate your weekends to it or whatever it may be because

[00:52:43] Matt Diedrich: 20 to 30 right.

[00:52:44] Chris Furlong: 10 years. And you'll be ahead of us now, right? Because you know

[00:52:49] Matt Diedrich: how old your demographic is that watch this, or listen to this pod 35 to 45.

[00:52:54] Matt Diedrich: It's still super young to be going. I've got an opportunity to think about something you monetize or something. And. I'm not retiring 30 or 40 years, you know, what am I, what am I going to do in that 34 years? Or how can I change these things? You know, you've got so much time to do

[00:53:09] Chris Furlong: it, the new 20. Right. But, but what you said that it's really true, right.

[00:53:15] Chris Furlong: You know, we said 20, we sent to 30, but heck if you're 30, 40, 50, it's not too late. And I've seen some pretty cool stories over the last two years of people that did lose their jobs that did get kicked out of whatever situation. And they've had to improvise, they've had to pivot and some of them have just, you know, taken on the trend of, oh, I started a Tik TOK or whatever.

[00:53:33] Chris Furlong: And you know, they've just blown up and the Dawn in there just to discover and learn and have some fun. And it's worked out well for them. I'm not saying that's what you do. And that's what you'll get from it. But. The idea is that curiosity, that inkling of something that excites you, that that's really what's going to right.

[00:53:50] Matt Diedrich: Also to use the experience that you've already gained. It's generally, if you're going to try and do something different and might not be a complete 180, it might just be a, just a slight pivot that you can still utilize the skills that you've already used. And you said before, If I, if I didn't have the 10 years in the sports industry and my sales roles, maybe I'm not great at eBay and YouTube in getting a fast start with it, or, you know, being able to generate sales for it to be a full-time job or to gain subscribers.

[00:54:17] Matt Diedrich: If I didn't have that pass background and experience of doing presentations and making sales of my own in that industry. So what would, what do you wish you did when you were younger? Yeah, I would have liked to have started to work for myself at a younger age, but also don't regret not doing that because it's the me to kick it into gear at this point in my life.

[00:54:34] Matt Diedrich: Exactly. Catch 22. Like it's, I don't regret anything that I had ever done at any point. And I'll try to live my life as well as at any point in time. What do you want to do right? You, you can't do whatever you wanna do. If it's a job that you're working, that you don't want to work in, find a way to get out of it and make that your priority.

[00:54:51] Matt Diedrich: If you're not earning enough money, find a way to start another thing to make you more money. If that's what your priority is, whatever it is, what you want to do right now, I truly believe that anybody can set themselves up to be in that position. But so many people don't so many people don't think it's possible and they get routed into working at your job that they hate.

[00:55:07] Matt Diedrich: And I just, literally months and years go by. And that literally, they literally don't like him and enjoy their loss. So when they possibly could change it, if they want it. Love it it's um,

[00:55:18] Chris Furlong: I mean, w w wait, I mean, we could go on for ages about this, but I feel like that that's really the pivotal point here of just, I mean, guys, you got to take what you want and empty shoe it, right.

[00:55:29] Chris Furlong: I mean, that's, it's cliche as it is. That's, that's really the only way to do it. And I love what you're saying around slow growth, because, you know, for me to get to my running journey and, you know, I've only been reselling for a year now, but my running, you know? Yeah. I've done an ultra marathon. I've done multiple marathons and I'm doing two half marathons.

[00:55:47] Chris Furlong: But it's taken me eight years to get here. Right. And I think that's, that's the key thing is the time element. I can't just go out and all of a sudden go to a hundred K ultra marathon because 50 K ultra to me was like, whoa. So that hundred is like me starting back at 5k again, thinking how do I do a 10 K or a 20 K?

[00:56:06] Chris Furlong: So that perspective, and I think it is that slow growth over time. That's going to give you the confidence that you experience and the ability to then show up and say, yeah, I've got this, I got this.

[00:56:17] Matt Diedrich: Hmm, cool. I want to make growing slow. Cool.

[00:56:21] Chris Furlong: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, it, it, I think actions speak louder than words.

[00:56:26] Chris Furlong: Right. And I think when people start to realize it and build that momentum and get that snowball effect, that's when you can really understand the power of it. And it's like compound, it's like investing, right. You know, it's that statement of, you know, the best time to invest is 20 years ago or today, because right now we've just discussed about, you know, or what you wish you would have done at 20 years.

[00:56:46] Chris Furlong: Then you wouldn't have had the experience. So hindsight tells us then, well, okay, if you want something in 20 years, time or 10 years time, you have to start today, but that's the only way to get it. You can't start in 20 years and expect you're going to have the result because you've missed the 20. Yeah.

[00:57:00] Chris Furlong: Um, yeah, we can hop on this. So look, I'm going to be super excited to see, and I said this last time where you're going to be over the next few years, especially five years, because then it's outside of your three-year window. Like it's going to be very interesting, even for myself, like, you know, I know we talk about it and it feels a long way away, but it will go quick.

[00:57:18] Chris Furlong: Um, and of course we'll, I'll probably have him back again in a year's time and check in and see what's going on and see what's changed. And that's what I love about these. I've been catching up with a lot of people over, you know, and it's been a year since I caught up and see how they've changed, what they're doing, different, how they've grown, how they haven't grown or weather failed.

[00:57:34] Chris Furlong: And all these things play a part in molding who we are and enabling others to grow too. So, I mean, I mean, like we've touched on Hayes, man. I really do appreciate it because there's a lot to unpack here. And I think, um, I was going to say, what's one thing you would leave to the audience, but I think you're going to say it's like slow growth.

[00:57:53] Chris Furlong: I mean, slow,

[00:57:55] Matt Diedrich: I'm going to start, I'm going to start decided a bit more of my videos arc and it's almost been born. I've been thinking about it a lot. I've mentioned it here and there, but Narcan has been born out of this podcast because, you know, I don't really, I verbally talk a bit about this sort of stuff.

[00:58:07] Matt Diedrich: I think about all this stuff, but sitting in a pod with you and actually putting it out there and speaking it, the reasoning thing that I come back to is that I'm just growing slow every single day. And I'm still here now. Yeah, so, and that's it just, you're

[00:58:21] Chris Furlong: showing up, you're putting in the reps. You're, you're still here.

[00:58:25] Matt Diedrich: And a lot of people on scene, they aren't still here and it's because you're paid to grow slow and you'll speak to me in a year's time. And you'll say, what are you up to? And I'll say, well, I've just grown slow for another 12 months. That's

[00:58:37] Chris Furlong: it. And I think, you know, I can resonate with this a lot because I mean, I've had my YouTube for six, seven years now and you know, I've changed and shuffled and you know, I'm picking up momentum now, but you know, a hundred percent transparency, you know, for me to be on YouTube for five years when I first met you five, six years, and then to say, you come along and now you're at seven K and you've done it.

[00:58:58] Chris Furlong: You know, a 10th of the time I've been on there and you're like seven X mean it's, it's, it's frustrating as heck, but I can understand why people get so frustrated because people think you're an overnight success, but that's not true. Right? It's not overnight. It's literally 18 months

[00:59:14] Matt Diedrich: and it's also protection.

[00:59:15] Matt Diedrich: It's also perception. Like to me, I look at people with 20, 30, 40, a hundred thousand subscriber accounts and envious

[00:59:23] Chris Furlong: someone ahead. Right. And there's that timeline? It's the most cliche thing, but I always talk about is you're in the middle of, there's always someone ahead of you and there's always someone that you're influencing and pulling up or inspiring.

[00:59:33] Chris Furlong: And that once you aware of that and realize where you're at is where you need to be at. And it's about not being jealous, but being motivated by the ones ahead of you and making sure that you're helping the ones behind you, encouraging them and helping them see that, Hey, I was there whenever I was there.

[00:59:49] Chris Furlong: You just gotta keep that discipline and that, you know, that, that grows slow. Like, you know, that's, that's the big takeaway.

[00:59:56] Matt Diedrich: Speaking of passions. My passion really has developed over the last eight months into YouTube. And, and like I spoke about before the creativity aspect, the titles on more than happy to have a chat to you about it as well.

[01:00:06] Matt Diedrich: If you want to have a chat about that generation, what video ideas are going to pop for us and, and what tiles and thumbnails can we do, because that's not going to be taking any time out of my day. I'll talk about and think about that every single day of the week. So, um, yeah, if, if you've got your goals to, to try and get your YouTube subscribers up and things like that, when we have a short.

[01:00:25] Matt Diedrich: Yeah, very

[01:00:26] Chris Furlong: re already helping people. My it's been it's been so good. Like I said, we could chat hours and this and that. We're we're, we've definitely here. That are good. Good time. Um, I appreciate it. So it's yeah, it has. It's it's gone super quick and people that are listening, I want you to go bet your Matt, go check out me, man.

[01:00:44] Chris Furlong: Where's the best place to find you. You

[01:00:46] Matt Diedrich: can tell us the Aussie flipper on, on YouTube is, I mean, you can have a chat to me on Instagram because I'm banned from communicating out, but I'm happy to communicate it so you can send me a message on Instagram. I'm always happy to respond to anything. Um, but yeah, watch more videos on YouTube.

[01:01:01] Matt Diedrich: Cause that's.

[01:01:03] Chris Furlong: Love it that's really good. Really do appreciate it. Um, I mean, you know, it's, I basically checked you on a weekly basis at this point, but really encourage everyone to go check it out and, you know, not, not even if you're not into reselling or anything like that, you know, just go check out and see what you're trying to do and help give that perspective, especially that, that hustle video, you know, I think it's, we can take it in big chunks or small chunks because in some ways, you know, there is something that we're always dedicating our time to too much, and being able to, you know, have that realization of, okay, I need to step back and just appreciate the, the slow burn or the slow growth.

[01:01:35] Chris Furlong: So really do appreciate you coming onto the pot again, mate, I'm looking forward to see where you're going this year and where you're going to be in a year's time. And, um, of course I'll have you back on, but otherwise you have a wonderful day.

[01:01:48] Matt Diedrich: I appreciate you getting me on

[01:01:50] Chris Furlong: cheers. So there you go.

[01:01:52] Chris Furlong: Another episode done and dusted and I mean, I love what Matt's doing and he's been a huge inspiration in helping me actually grow and, um, help me, you know, reach some of my goals with, with the reselling business. And, you know, there's a lot of people in this reselling community and it's really encouraging to see how many people help and I have heaps of people to thank you for it.

[01:02:11] Chris Furlong: And, you know, Matt also has some great perspective, right? And I think the big, big takeaway from this episode is a growth slow, right? That's really the key words that, um, he resonated with. I resonated with. And I think that's the perspective you need to take from this episode is, you know, if you do want.

[01:02:29] Chris Furlong: Achieved something. If you do have some goals in there, some ambitions you need to be willing to put in the, you know, the time put in the discipline, be willing to show up and have the patience. And he touched on this quite a lot in this episode and it resonated with me a lot and it's not an easy process, but it's well worth it in the long run.

[01:02:47] Chris Furlong: So I've been inspired. Of course, make sure you go check out his channel. All the details are in the show notes below. You can also hit us up on Instagram or Twitter and continue the conversation, which I would greatly appreciate at further your lifestyle on Instagram or further your life on Twitter. Hey, you can even send me an email at hello ad for the, your lifestyle.com.

[01:03:04] Chris Furlong: Really do appreciate you being here. I hope you've enjoyed the episode. You can drop a comment on YouTube. If you have listened to this with the YouTube experience, really appreciate it. And you have a wonderful day. Cheers. Now, if you didn't know, we do have the podcast merge and this is with a key focus.

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[01:03:41] Chris Furlong: We do also have some sweaters and some long tastes. So make sure you check it out, link in the description and in the show notes. Really do appreciate it. Cheers.